Wasteland 3 Event!

Wasteland 3

November 5-6, 2011

Waynes World of Paintball

Ocala, FL

$40 pre-registration / $50 day of the event

Register for the event here!

Download the Wasteland Survival Guide (Players Pack) here!

Welcome back to the Wasteland! The Wasteland 3 is the next installment of MGP’s successful Wasteland event series. The Wasteland is an alternate reality event based on the FallOut computer games. The setting is an area around the ruins of Washington DC, two hundred years after a devastating nuclear war.

The FallOut world is not quite our own. It is an alternate reality that diverged from ours at some point after the second World War. The base concept for the setting is the World of Tomorrow as imagined in the Golden Age of Science Fiction. This means that before the Great War, the FallOut world was more or less what the people of the 1940s and 1950s thought things would be like in 2077. The most important event in the FallOut setting was the Great War which happened on October 23, 2077.

Our game continues in the Capitol Wasteland of 2282. The Capital Wastes were abuzz with news that the dreaded Slavers of Paradise Falls had been crushed by a force from the West. The joy was short-lived, however when the true nature of The Legion was revealed. Originating from the deserts of the south-west, the Legion is a cruel, highly militarized slaver society based on the old Roman Empire. Other tribes and communities are forced to join the Legion and its way or life, or be destroyed and enslaved. The Legion’s westward expansion was halted at the Colorado River by the New California Republic. The God Mars spoke to Caesar in a dream and said that his path to domination would be assured if he could capture the seat of the Old American Republic and prove his right to rule. Caesar has assembled a sizable army, marching them for months across the ruined and hostile countryside, to seize the Capital Wasteland.

The self-proclaimed saviors of America, the Enclave, have mobilized their forces to deal with this direct threat to the old Capital region. Wastelanders and communities of survivors scramble to arm themselves as these two armies prepare to battle over the Capital Wastes while the Regulators and Reilly’s Rangers try to maintain order and protect those too weak to help themselves. Talon Company and groups of raiders watch the gathering clouds of war with an appreciative eye for contracts and loot. Supermutants hungrily watch the growing supply of human flesh for their gore-bags.

Fame, fortune and relics of pre-war technology await! Welcome to the Capitol Wasteland!

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Cost for advance, online registration is $40. Note that several factions have restricted registration and may be unavailable for walk-on players. Sign up in advance to lock in your team and save money! Onsite registration is $50. Pay attention to uniform requirements! They will be enforced! The Wasteland 3 is a MGP Legacy Game, open to players 16+. Players must be 16 years of age or older by November 5, 2011. Wasteland is a 24 hour game starting the morning of Saturday, Nov. 5 and concluding the morning of Sunday, Nov. 5.

The Hive 2 

CSENTRI Training Facility Orlando, Fl 

$60 per person / Pre-registration only 

October 15, 2011 

 Register for the Hive here 

 Registration Closes Thursday, October 13th at Midnight! 

 Download Players Pack here 

Six months ago… At approximately 1657 hrs, April 22, 2011 the biohazard alarm sensor in Lab K-7 detected a release of experimental virus T-02271. Whatever the cause, the highly unstable T-02271 variant vaporized at room temperature and was rapidly drawn into the air circulation system. The contaminated laboratory level was immediately shutdown by the Hive’s AI, but the virus was sweeping into other levels of the facility. One level after another shut down amidst alarm klaxons and the screams of panicked employees. Teams of Raccoon City’s elite STARS unit descended into the Hive on the morning of April 23, to rescue workers trapped in the bowels of the facility. Heavily armed troops from Umbrella Corps Biological Containment Service went in as well to recover critical company research property. Only a handful returned alive to the surface.

The Hive was sealed behind massive blast doors and put under permanent watch by the Umbrella Corporation. As the months passed, and due to the efforts of the Umbrella Corporation public affairs team, the incident was all but forgotten to the general public as an unfortunate industrial accident. 

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Vietnam Legacy Airsoft Game, Aug. 20 @Wayne's World

Operation: Constrictor

August 20, 2011
Wayne's World of Paintball, Ocala, FL
$35 pre-reg / $40 at door

Register Here!
Download the Players Pack Here!

Late Summer, 1966
Kontum Province, Vietnam

In an effort to disrupt movement of supplies along the Ho Chi Minh Trail, the 12th Inf. Reg. 4th Id. & Delta Co. 1st Bn. 5th SFG are deployed to the tri-border area of the Kon Tum Province. A large, NVA run training camp has been established in the province and the city of Dak To has fallen to communist control. US Forces are to regain control of Dak To and begin a systematic search and destroy campaign to eliminate NVA/VC supply caches and restore control to government and Army of the Republic of Vietnam.

Units:

US Forces
Tiger Stripe - Delta Co. 1st Bn. 5th SFG
Olive Drab - 12th Infantry Regiment, 4th Infantry Division
Woodland - 26th Marine Regiment, 5th Marine Division

NVA/VC Forces
Tan - 28 Inf Regt NVA
Black - K37 NVA Sapper Bn (VC)

Upcoming MGP Event: Rainbow 6 - Mystic Tiger, July 2

Rainbow 6 - Mystic Tiger

July 2, 2011

CSENTRI Facility, Orlando

$60 per person (Expanded Site Locations!)

Register Here!

Visit Forums Here!

Established as an elite, multi-national counter-terrorism team, Rainbow is a black operation drawing upon some of the most skilled operators from the United States and NATO militaries, the FBI and select partner nations.

When requested by the government of an allied nation confronted with a situation beyond the capabilities of their own forces, Rainbow quietly and switftly deploys under the guise of host nation military or police, conducts the operation, and departs again without revealing their true identity and origins.

--- Rainbow 6 - Mystic Tiger ---

A series of terrorist operations around the globe have shown a disturbing new pattern. Although first seeming at disjointed attacks, indicators point to a single organization deep in the shadows, funding and directing these operations.

Religious, ideological or financial goals all mask these operations to the world media as unconnected events, but clearly something else is the end goal of the unknown leaders.

Having recently brought several new operations teams online, Rainbow has stepped up its operational response while the intelligence section races to connect the dots and identify the mysterious organization, its motivation and end goals.

--- New Locations at CSENTRI Facility! ---

This counter-terrorism themed event, inspired by the Rainbow 6 novel and game series, introduces new mission dynamics and new terrain within CSENTRI!

In addition to the 80,000 square foot South Annex, Mystic Tiger also expands to encompass "CQB Alley" and the "RatPack", a training area deeper on the CSENTRI compound with a set of combat alleys and a multi-story, modular training building. (Note that the additional $10 admission and extra locations will not be standard at all future TacOps events but part of this July 2nd package!)

Rainbow and Terrorist teams will fight in multiple locations of the CSENTRI facility in different scenario engagements featuring a variety of goals and force ratios intended to challenge player planning and thinking as well as physical skills.

Rainbow Teams
Black
MultiCam
Urban Digital

Phoenix Group
Olive Drab
Paramilitary Mix (Mixed uniforms and uniform/civilian combos - No Black, Multicam or UD)

Lunch Pre-Orders
Mystic Tiger registration includes an option to pre-order a large pizza and two-liter beverage that will be delivered onsite. No need to send your team offsite for lunch! Each package should feed 2-3 players depending on your appetite.

Upcoming MGP Event: Shattered Silence, June 11

Shattered Silence

June 11, 2011

CSENTRI Facility, Orlando, FL

$50 per person

Register here!
America breathes a sigh of relief as the world's most notorious terrorist is eliminated... but what happens now?

Although the serpent's head is severed, like a Hydra, many fierce heads sprout anew. As the United States races to take advantage of intelligence captured from Pakistan, terrorist cells scramble to evade capture and strike back against the West as one fanatic's death spawns a martyr.

Join us at the CSENTRI training facility in Orlando, Florida on June 11 for more CQB excitement as US Special Operations Teams battle terrorist cells from across the globe.

US Force Options:
MultiCam
Black
Olive Drab

Terrorist Options:
Civilian
Mixed Paramilitary (no complete uniform)

Standard MGP Rules in effect. Full face protection and red-chem light or red flashlight required safety items for this site.

Also at June event...

The Arms Market!

Bring your old weapons, uniforms, gear and other items to the Arms Market! Have some old equipment you want to sell? Need to make room for new toys? Tags will be available to tag your items with your name, asking price and other details. Items will be on display and watched over throughout the day, as a courtesy of Toy Soldier Sports, with a nominal 5% consignment of sales... no cost if items do not sell.

Upcoming MGP Event: Deadliest Warrior

Deadliest Warrior

May 7, 2011

CSENTRI Facility, Orlando, FL

$50 per person (organized as 5-6 person teams)

Just a week remaining until SFOD-D, SEALs, US Special Forces, Blackwater, US Coast Guard, CTU and other square off to determine who is is the Deadliest Warrior! Is your team represented? Sign up now! Registration closes late Thursday night, May 5th!

Players will be organized in 5-6 man teams. Pick who you are representing and pick your uniforms. We ask that all team members wear the same uniform. Consult the MGP forums to see who's coming and what uniforms are already being worn. While one team wearing a uniform doesn't preclude another from wearing the same, we'd like to try to have some sort of visual distinction. (ie. Multicam w/ mulitcam gear vs. Multicam w/ black gear)

The event includes team on team combat, working to achieve specific mission goals as well as a series of timed and scored tactical exercises.

The day will be organized into five main areas. Each team will have time to set up , get some pointers and practice with UAL staff and than compete. You will be Timed and scored on Hits and Kills, after each round , you will have time to go through and see for your self how you did. Each team will have there own color and will be able to see the hits and kills. The 5 events will be the fallowing ;

1. Pistol Comp
2. CQB / CQC Comp.
3. Hostage Rescue
4. Security Detail
5. Team VS Team - CTF (mulitple team v. team rounds)

Each event will be held simultaneously in different parts of the building to minimize down-time. Your teams will each have there own staging place to set up and reload for the next Competition. You will get extra point's for your team's load out at the start of the day.

You will need to have at least one hand gun per-team as the pistol competion runs each team member through solo. Ideally everyone has their own handgun and is familiar with it, but it can be shared and passed to other team members if someone doesn't have a sidearm. The rest of the time you will be fighting as a team and demonstrating why you are THE DEADLIEST WARRIORS...

Don't delay! Sign up this weekend!

Reminder: The Hive is this weekend! April 23

The Hive
CSENTRI Training Facility Orlando, Fl
$50 per person / Pre-registration only
April 23, 2011

Register for the Hive here

Registration Closes Thursday, April 21 at 10pm EST!

Download Players Pack here

At approximately 1657 hrs, April 22, the biohazard alarm sensor in Lab K-7 detected a release of experimental virus T-02271. It was shift change in the subterranean facility known as the Hive, a classified research station funded and operated by the Umbrella Corporation deep beneath the streets of Raccoon City. It was speculated that a careless lab employee dropped a tray of T-02271 samples when replacing them in cold storage. Whatever the cause, the highly unstable T-02271 variant vaporized at room temperature and was rapidly drawn into the air circulation system. The contaminated laboratory level was immediately shutdown by the Hive’s AI, but the virus was sweeping into other levels of the facility. One level after another shut down amidst alarm klaxons and the screams of panicked employees.

Research work at The Hive was varied and highly compartmentalized. Only a handful of scientists and security personnel were familiar with the effects of the T-Virus. Within an hour of release, the effects were horrifically apparent to all. In the resulting chaos, several explosions ripped through sections of The Hive and severely damaged the power grid and communications infrastructure. All contact was lost with The Hive at 1931hrs last night. Your team… is going in.

The Hive
Welcome to The Hive, MindGame Productions’ homage to the Resident Evil saga and our first, full-blown event of zombie slaying mayhem. Taking advantage of the close-quarter layout, dark settings and other features of the CSENTRI facility, we are organized a new and unique airsoft experience for any who’ve always thought they have what it takes to survive a zombie apocalypse.

For safety and flow of game-play, a number of special rules and requirements are in effect for The Hive. While changing many traditional dynamics, players should find these changes help make this event truly fun and challenging.

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Coming May 7... The Deadliest Warrior - Team based combat event and competition! Registration now open!

Photos: MegaCon 2011

@MegaCon 2011

TerrorWerks is ON! The U.S.M.S.C is in da' house @MegaCon, Orange County Convention Center, Hall D. If you are in the area, please stop by and check it out.

If you've ever played Call of Duty, Doom, Duke Nukem, or any first-person shooter video games, and wondered what it would be like to experience the pulse-pounding adrenaline rush of combat (without actually risking life and limb), then swing by the TerrorWerks booth - West concourse, Room W221a and b:

1-7pm today (Friday, March 25)
10-6 pm Saturday, March 26
10-5 pm Sunday, March 27

Sign up for a quick tour of duty (about 45 minutes) with the USMSC (United States Marines Space Corps)! We provide the gear - tactical vest and airsoft rifle - so you can test your abilities in simulated combat. If you survive, you can call yourself a USMSC grunt! Our recruiters are walking around MegaCon, looking for a few good candidates. Just look for the handsome guys in dark digital camo with a tactical vest on, and they can show you the way.

The Zone 2 AAR

Please feel free to visit The Zone 2 AAR thread on the Mindgame Productions forum. If you were able to participate in the game yesterday, please tell us about it! Please take the poll, and post links to any photos, if you got 'em. And if you weren't there - see what you missed, and then plan on being at the next MGP event!

Thanks to Wayne's World and all of our sponsors for making it a good one:

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The Zone 2

The Zone 2

Waynes World of Paintball

March 19, 2011

$40 Pre-Registration / $50 Onsite

Register Online Here

Game Forums open Here

On 26 April 1986 at 01:23am, reactor number four at the Chernobyl plant, near Pripyat in the Ukrainian SSR, exploded. Further explosions and the resulting fire sent a plume of highly radioactive fallout into the atmosphere and over an extensive geographical area. Four hundred times more fallout was released than had been by the atomic bombing of Hiroshima.

The Zone of Alienation was established soon after the Chernobyl disaster in 1986, in order to evacuate the local population and to prevent people from entering the heavily contaminated territory. The area adjoining the site of the disaster was divided into 4 concentric zones, amongst them the fourth (actually the nearest, within a radius of 30 km/19 mi) being the most dangerous.

In the years following the Chernobyl accident, the Soviet Union established a series of highly classified, experimental research stations within The Zone. This provided the Soviet and later the Ukranian military valuable experience protecting personnel operating within a highly contaminated landscape. For the scientists, The Zone provided a vast area of utter seclusion for advanced, theoretical research far from prying eyes. No one knows what triggered the second incident, but the results were far more startling.

On April 13, 2006, 04:13 a.m., the area around Chernobyl was lit by a blinding light, painting the area with a red glow – and sending out a rolling, roaring emission of noise and energy that ended all communication with the research stations. The Ukranian government ordered an immediate quarantine of the area, the military shooting any violators on sight. 24/7 patrols of the perimeter became necessary. Something had changed inside The Zone.. something that had to do with the fundamental structure of time-space itself. Strange entities were reported by patrols, things that could not be accounted for simply by the effects of radiation on animal and human DNA. Pockets were discovered where physics behaved in strange and dangerous ways. These “anomalies” as they were called seemed to spawn strange artifacts. Items of unknown origin, with powers inexplicable to science and barely understood.

The Zone is a unique airsoft experience drawn from the STALKER videogame series, and loosely on the Russian film of the same name. Set in the contaminated wastelands of the Chernobyl Zone of Alienation, Ukrainian troops, paramilitary factions and lone stalkers fight to control or reveal the secrets of The Zone. Some follow orders of the government, with little knowledge or understanding of what they are guarding, others seek fortune through scavenging scraps of classified technology and strange, unearthly artifacts. The Zone is a grim and deadly place, full of radioactive pockets, unexplained anomalies, mutated horrors and ruthless killers. But it is said that within a man can find treasure beyond his wildest dreams…

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This weekend: OP Red Valley

24 hour airsoft event!

MindGame Productions presents...

Operation Red Valley
February 26-27, 2011
$45 Pre-Reg / $55 Onsite
DV8 Field, Lithia, FL

Register here
Download players pack here

Pre-Registration closes Thursday night!

R24 Hour game at the DV8 field with military vehicles, props and special effects!

The Republic of San Marcos was small but important part of America's containment of Latin American communist expansion through-out the Cold War. The actions of the military of San Marcos and its secret police force often raised global outrage in their suppression of Cuban backed insurgents, but the US remained a staunch ally and financial supporter in its efforts to stave off the "domino effect" through Latin America in the 70s and 80s.

In the decades since the end of the Cold War, the Republic of San Marcos has largely fallen into insignificance. With the end of Soviet and Cuban support, the insurgency largely faded away. Tourism picked up for the beaches of San Marcos and the government eased many of its internal policies, needing new sources of revenue as American financial and military assistance dropped away. All things considered, life in San Marcos has been reasonably good for some time and the youngest generation has enjoyed growing up without knowing of war.

That is until 2008, when President Ferdinand Madrazo elected to office. Madrazo begin slowly tightening the grip of the military and rebuilding his internal security forces. Taxation of the tourism industry and trade threatened to choke off many private businesses and slowed foreign investment. The new tax revenue flooded into government coffers and private accounts of Madrazo and his cabinet.

By 2010, the country was back in the throes of armed insurgency. The old generation of leftist radicals found fertile ground for revolution in their children and grandchildren. The insurgency was fed by funding and weapons arriving from Cuba and Venezuela. The US has reluctantly send teams of military advisors into San Marcos at the request of Madrazo. A political embarrassment, the US hopes to change Madrazo's policies in time while preventing Cuba and Venezuela from destabilizing the region and causing the conflict to spread.

US Advisors - ACU or ABU
San Marcos Ministry of Defense Troops - Woodland
San Marcos Ministry of Interior Troops - MultiCam
Insurgents - Any uniform of combination of uniform and civilian clothing except for ACU and Multicam. Insurgents wear a blue bandanna (provided).

Event sponsored by

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Last call for TacOps; registration closes at 12 am

TacOps February 12, 2011 CSENTRI Training Facility Orlando, Florida $50 advance registration Event STRICTLY limited to 50 players maximum! Pre-Registration required as we must submit names to site security. Last Call Details: Registration closes tonight at 12am there's still time left to register. Quick update to those who are attending don't forget to bring the following: Red "Dead Rag" Red chemlight/glowstick. If you don't have any RED chemlight/glowsticks we will have them available on-site for $5.00. Visit www.mindgame-productions.com for more information

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Operation Red Valley February 26-27, 2011

Operation Red Valley

February 26-27, 2011
$45 Pre-Reg / $55 Onsite
DV8 Field, Lithia, FL

Registration Is Open
Click here to register!

24 Hour game at the DV8 field with military vehicles, props and special effects!

The Republic of San Marcos was small but important part of America's containment of Latin American communist expansion through-out the Cold War. The actions of the military of San Marcos and its secret police force often raised global outrage in their suppression of Cuban backed insurgents, but the US remained a staunch ally and financial supporter in its efforts to stave off the "domino effect" through Latin America in the 70s and 80s.

In the decades since the end of the Cold War, the Republic of San Marcos has largely fallen into insignificance. With the end of Soviet and Cuban support, the insurgency largely faded away. Tourism picked up for the beaches of San Marcos and the government eased many of its internal policies, needing new sources of revenue as American financial and military assistance dropped away. All things considered, life in San Marcos has been reasonably good for some time and the youngest generation has enjoyed growing up without knowing of war.

That is until 2008, when President Ferdinand Madrazo elected to office. Madrazo begin slowly tightening the grip of the military and rebuilding his internal security forces. Taxation of the tourism industry and trade threatened to choke off many private businesses and slowed foreign investment. The new tax revenue flooded into government coffers and private accounts of Madrazo and his cabinet.

By 2010, the country was back in the throes of armed insurgency. The old generation of leftist radicals found fertile ground for revolution in their children and grandchildren. The insurgency was fed by funding and weapons arriving from Cuba and Venezuela. The US has reluctantly send teams of military advisers into San Marcos at the request of Madrazo. A political embarrassment, the US hopes to change Madrazo's policies in time while preventing Cuba and Venezuela from destabilizing the region and causing the conflict to spread.

Event Uniforms

US Advisers - ACU or ABU
San Marcos Ministry of Defense Troops - Woodland
San Marcos Ministry of Interior Troops - MultiCam
Insurgents - Any uniform of combination of uniform and civilian clothing except for ACU and Multicam. Insurgents wear a blue bandanna (provided).


This is a 24 hour none stop MIL-SIM event with ongoing missions & objectives though out the event, players are encouraged to bring all necessary gear with them into the field in a pack.

Checklist for Airsoft Events

· Airsoft AEG & magazine

· Spare AEG & magazines

· Sidearm & magazines

· Airsoft gas

· Batteries for AEG’s

· BB’s for AEG and sidearm with Speed loader

· EYE PROTECTION

· Correct uniform for your team

· Battle rig, chest rig, plate carrier, LBV, LBE, etc

· Boots

· Socks and extra socks (This field has some wet terrain)

· Gloves

· Cover (hat, boonie)

· Foot powder and additional foot care products, Ie. Orthotics, ankle brace

· Belt

· Radio w/ spare batteries ( This is a LARGE field all players should have a radio)

· Spare radio w/ more spare batteries

· Ruck sack or other back pack item for carrying non-essentials & extra
gear, water and food.

· Snack food or power bar (MRE's will be ideal for this event)

· WATER in a Hydrapak, canteen or similar (Extra Water)

· Red Dead rag

· Red Cem Light

· Anti-fog

· EYE PROTECTION... yes... it’s that important

· GUN BAG – don’t carry your weapon out in the open

· WATER... again... it’s important

· “OFF”… or other bug repellent

· Allergy medication

· General medication

· Emergency medication. Ie. If you’re allergic to bee stings

· Compass and or GPS device

· WATER... still important

· Camera or disposable camera

· Leather-man knife / tool

· One small note pads 5”x2.5”

· Mechanical pencils

· AO maps / Aerial Photo

· Night vision for night operations (If you have it)

** This is a generic list that includes some of the ‘basics’. You may find that you need more than the items listed, or less of the items listed. Be sure to plan for any possible outcome, good or bad and be prepared. Don’t expect someone else to have the items you need.Get your gear in order so that you can be a self-contained entity

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Next TacOps Event: February 12

TacOps February 12, 2011 CSENTRI Training Facility Orlando, Florida $50 advance registration Event STRICTLY limited to 50 players maximum! Pre-Registration required as we must submit names to site security. Closing online registration by 10pm, Thursday, February 10. TacOps Video Link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo9YxyVLsQo Registration open now Be sure to visit our NEW website at www.mindgame-productions.com The ATU story continues as the Anti-Terrorism Unit tracks down the Russian Syndicate which smuggled chemical weapons into the US for sale to the Crimson Jihad. Working with local law enforcement personnel, ATU's pursuit of the Russian Syndicate uncovers a grim conspiracy and a secret army funded by crimelords and a cabal of wealthy European industrialists. TacOps event will be held at the CSENTRI tactical training facility in Orlando, Florida. This event will be held in the south annex, an 80,000 square foot CQB complex of rooms, halls and stairs. Future TacOps events, classes and competitions will utilize other areas and assets at the CSENTRI facility as well as other locations in Florida. Standard MGP/FA rules are in effect. A full face-mask, shemagh or sports mouth-guard is STRONGLY encouraged for this event due to CQB layout and potential of accidental engagements within bang-out range. A red "dead rag" is required and a red chemlight encouraged. Tactical lights and sidearms are strongly recommended for full participation in all scenarios run at the facility. ATU Black Urban Digital Local Law Enforcement Olive Drab Russian Syndicate Civilian Attire (dress suits and tracksuits recommended) Russian Mercenaries Any Russian Uniform Eisenrabe (European PMC) Multicam Basics - 18+ game - CSENTRI Facility Orlando - 2001 W. Oak Ridge Road, Orlando (between Orange Blossom Trail and John Young Parkway - 9am start. Onsite check-in opens 8am - $50 online pre-reg - 400fps maximum. 350fps preferred. NO SNIPER WEAPONS. - Mid/Low-Cap Magazines - Bio BBs not required, but no clear Biovals Visit www.mindgame-productions.com for more information

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MGP News is Live!

Looky here! Some actual news on the MGP News page. The news is, that we now have a blog that feeds into the news page. More details will be forthcoming.